In yesterday’s sutra, Buddha says ‘someone who has set out in the vehicle of a Bodhisattva should decide that “I must lead all the beings to nirvana, into that realm of nirvana which leaves nothing behind.”’ What is this realm of nirvana which leaves nothing behind?
Buddha has talked about two kinds of nirvana. One he calls nirvana with substratum. The tree has disappeared, the tree of desires. The foliage, the leaves, the flowers, the fruits—everything has disappeared. But the roots are still there underground, hidden in the dark soil. From the outside the tree has been removed, but the tree is still capable of renewing itself again. The substratum is still there, the seed has not been burnt yet. This he calls ‘nirvana with substratum.
This is exactly the same that Patanjali calls nirbeej samadhi —samadhi with seed. It is very difficult from the outside. The tree has been completely removed, but underneath the soil the roots are still alive, waiting for the right moment to sprout again. Rains will come and they will sprout. They are waiting for their season, for the moment again to assert.
This is the state when many times you have come to the point where mind disappears, no-mind is felt, but again mind comes back, again it sprouts. You reach to a peak. That moment of that peak experience, you think all is finished—now you will never be falling back to the valley of darkness. You think that you will never go back into those ugly and miserable days—that the dark night of the soul is over, that the morning has arrived, that the sun has arisen.
But again one day you suddenly find you are slipping back into the darkness—again the valley, again light is no more, again that peak experience is just a memory. And one starts becoming doubtful whether it has happened or not. “Have I been just imagining? Or maybe I was just dreaming.” Because if it had happened then where has it gone?
Where is that sunlit peak? Where are those moments of ecstasy? And misery is back and anger is back and agony is back—you have fallen into hell again. This happens many times.
This Buddha calls nirvana with substratum; sabeej samadhi in Patanjali’s words. Manifestation of the world is gone but the unmanifested seed remains.
The second nirvana Buddha calls the nirvana without substratum—in Patanjali’s words nirbeej samadhi—seedless samadhi. Not only the tree has been destroyed, but the seed also burned. A burned seed cannot sprout again, all substratum is gone. Then you remain on the peak forever, then there is no falling back.
That’s what Buddha says in yesterday’s sutra: ‘Someone who has set out in the vehicle of a Bodhisattva should decide that “I must lead all being to nirvana, into that realm of nirvana which leaves nothing behind…”‘ which leaves no substratum, no roots, no seeds behind.
-Osho
From The Diamond Sutra, Discourse #2
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Assuming having a self others become real and go about saving illusory beings… and here is where the attachment begins and draws the mind to the valley bellow where time manifests itself as Self, having a Sensual / Body / Ego / Mind,… in the realm of becoming…
Then the mind releases roots of attachment as memory sets in due to the process of repetition, hobby so to say; enjoys the fruits of senses, becomes heavy and sluggish by time and experience, which can also evolve in the cycle, or the wheel of samsara, lacking awareness due to attachment and remains as subconsciously conscious.
Everything would have been perfect if life could have any true reality in it, but since it´s just a fictitious mutation, it disappears as soon as it becomes visible, leaving the assumed mind tortured trying to find truth in the flux of dis…..appearance.
After this life/delusion becomes staggering as one contemplates over it, awareness and logic digs deep in one´s mind, life and being…. and as a result in finding truth, one finds only extinction.
So the sensual mind yells and shouts for it´s permanent reality not realizing that it´s only a fiction.
So awareness and logic tells me that before I came to be, I had no being, and my understanding is also certain that now that I am, I cannot be.
So Everything that is sensed and experienced, whether willingly or not, it´s not my wish, I´ m just a slave and to engage in evolution, in the process, in the matrix, in the system…it was not my idea to be born as such, male or female, I found myself in this predicament… and the only way out, and will to use, is denying it to the point that I come out clean…. Annihilated from the shadows, uprooted by my own awareness, and as that becomes visible, being becomes eliminated and the eternity remains without…. ME…
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Sat Sangha Salon wrote:
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